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Apr 27, 2009:

9:57 PM Ticket #1304 (Add support for exporting CGH data to MeV) updated by Jari Häkkinen
Replying to nicklas: > Shouldn't this go into the MeV …
9:48 PM Ticket #1304 (Add support for exporting CGH data to MeV) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Shouldn't this go into the MeV package in BASE plug-ins?
2:24 PM Ticket #1304 (Add support for exporting CGH data to MeV) created by Jari Häkkinen
This is supposed to be straightforward the format is well-defined.
2:21 PM ScanImporter.java attached to Ticket #1303 by Jari Häkkinen
2:21 PM Ticket #1303 (Batch scan importer improvements) created by Jari Häkkinen
Copied from the mailing list (thread started at March 11, 2009) We …
11:52 AM Ticket #1302 (Overview plots and correction factor plots as extension) created by Jari Häkkinen
... and create extension points where the plots should be added.
11:46 AM Ticket #1301 (BASE and GenePattern) updated by Jari Häkkinen
Type, Description changed
11:45 AM Ticket #1301 (BASE and GenePattern) created by Jari Häkkinen
GenePattern, http://www.broad.mit.edu/cancer/software/genepattern/, …

Apr 24, 2009:

3:53 PM Changeset [4906] by Martin Svensson
References #1128 More item-pages updated
3:53 PM Ticket #1128 (Export of child items) updated by Martin Svensson
(In [4906]) References #1128 More item-pages updated
1:43 PM Ticket #1300 (Group list-page does not list users that are members) closed by Martin Svensson
wontfix: Group list-page does not list users that are members - this is not …
1:32 PM Ticket #1120 (The dynamic part of BASE should keep track whether intensity data is ...) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Owner, Status changed
1:30 PM Changeset [4905] by Nicklas Nordborg
Fixes #1299: Remove the section om MeV in the docs
1:30 PM Ticket #1299 (Remove the section om MeV in the docs) closed by Nicklas Nordborg
fixed: (In [4905]) Fixes #1299: Remove the section om MeV in the docs
1:30 PM Ticket #1299 (Remove the section om MeV in the docs) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Summary changed
1:27 PM Ticket #1299 (Remove the section om MeV in the docs) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Priority, Status, Owner changed
1:24 PM Changeset [4904] by Nicklas Nordborg
References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars Disabled …
1:24 PM Ticket #1271 (Add extension points to all toolbars) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
(In [4904]) References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars …
1:16 PM Changeset [4903] by Nicklas Nordborg
Fixes #1179: A user should be able to see which groups he is a part of …
1:16 PM Ticket #1179 (A user should be able to see which groups he is a part of without any ...) closed by Nicklas Nordborg
fixed: (In [4903]) Fixes #1179: A user should be able to see which groups he …
1:13 PM Ticket #1179 (A user should be able to see which groups he is a part of without any ...) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Status, Owner, Priority changed
12:56 PM Tickets #1300,​550 batch updated by Nicklas Nordborg
fixed: (In [4902]) Fixes #550: Write "Overview of BASE" section in Developer …
12:56 PM Changeset [4902] by Nicklas Nordborg
Fixes #550: Write "Overview of BASE" section in Developer …
12:56 PM Ticket #1300 (Group list-page does not list users that are members) created by Martin Svensson
The users-column at group list-page does not list any users, although …
9:21 AM Ticket #1299 (Remove the section om MeV in the docs) updated by Jari Häkkinen
Milestone changed
9:17 AM Ticket #1185 (Manual transform creator) updated by Jari Häkkinen
Milestone changed
9:17 AM Ticket #1120 (The dynamic part of BASE should keep track whether intensity data is ...) updated by Jari Häkkinen
Milestone changed
9:17 AM Ticket #1179 (A user should be able to see which groups he is a part of without any ...) updated by Jari Häkkinen
Milestone changed
9:13 AM Ticket #1055 (Messaging system) closed by Jari Häkkinen
wontfix: User messaging will not be introduced. Use mail or SMS.

Apr 23, 2009:

3:57 PM Changeset [4901] by Martin Svensson
References #1128 Updated list-pages and index-pages for the majority …
3:57 PM Ticket #1128 (Export of child items) updated by Martin Svensson
(In [4901]) References #1128 Updated list-pages and index-pages for …
10:23 AM Ticket #1299 (Remove the section om MeV in the docs) created by Jari Häkkinen
9:50 AM Ticket #1293 (Changing name of the 'File' entry in the top toolbar to 'BASE') updated by Jari Häkkinen
This is trivial to change in the GUI but the docs need to be updated …
9:29 AM Ticket #1188 (Create a super batch importer?) updated by Jari Häkkinen
Summary changed

Apr 22, 2009:

9:18 AM Ticket #550 (Write "Overview of BASE" section in Developer documentation part) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Milestone, Status, Owner changed

Apr 21, 2009:

7:58 PM Ticket #1298 (error when hybridising multiple arrays on one slide (Agilent 4x44k)) closed by Nicklas Nordborg
invalid: A slide can only be associated with a single hybridization. The proper …
6:34 PM Ticket #1298 (error when hybridising multiple arrays on one slide (Agilent 4x44k)) created by base
I am using the agilent 4x44k arrays (4 arrays per slide), and cant …
2:54 PM Changeset [4900] by Martin Svensson
References #1128 Parents of extracts can now be exported with the …
2:54 PM Ticket #1128 (Export of child items) updated by Martin Svensson
(In [4900]) References #1128 Parents of extracts can now be exported …
11:32 AM Changeset [4899] by Martin Svensson
References #1128 Tested the dataloaders on extracts' children.
11:32 AM Ticket #1128 (Export of child items) updated by Martin Svensson
(In [4899]) References #1128 Tested the dataloaders on extracts' children.
11:29 AM Changeset [4898] by Martin Svensson
References #1297 Added support for custom data loaders and collections
11:29 AM Ticket #1297 (Add support for custom 'data loaders' and collections to ...) updated by Martin Svensson
(In [4898]) References #1297 Added support for custom data loaders and …
10:00 AM Ticket #1294 (Limit the vertical size of "Projects", "New messages" and "News and ...) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
I just came to think of that even if the staff wants to hide a …
8:20 AM Changeset [4897] by Nicklas Nordborg
References #1294: Limit the vertical size of "Projects", "New …
8:20 AM Ticket #1294 (Limit the vertical size of "Projects", "New messages" and "News and ...) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
(In [4897]) References #1294: Limit the vertical size of "Projects", …

Apr 20, 2009:

2:02 PM Ticket #1294 (Limit the vertical size of "Projects", "New messages" and "News and ...) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Milestone, Status, Owner, Summary changed
I'll implement a vertical limit with a scroll bar in any case. All …
1:35 PM Ticket #1297 (Add support for custom 'data loaders' and collections to ...) updated by Martin Svensson
Status, Owner changed
1:16 PM Ticket #1297 (Add support for custom 'data loaders' and collections to ...) created by Nicklas Nordborg
The use of a Formatter implementation as described in #1272 turned out …
1:08 PM Changeset [4896] by Martin Svensson
References #1128 Undoing changeset [4895]
1:08 PM Ticket #1128 (Export of child items) updated by Martin Svensson
(In [4896]) References #1128 Undoing changeset [4895]
8:43 AM Ticket #1128 (Export of child items) updated by Martin Svensson
Changeset [4895] belongs to this ticket.
8:38 AM Changeset [4895] by Martin Svensson
Refereces #1128 Added new formatter classes and tested them on complex …

Apr 8, 2009:

10:29 AM Changeset [4894] by Nicklas Nordborg
References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars Toolbar …
10:29 AM Ticket #1271 (Add extension points to all toolbars) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
(In [4894]) References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars …
10:17 AM Changeset [4893] by Nicklas Nordborg
Fixes #1295: Downloading files with space characters in the filename …
10:17 AM Ticket #1295 (Downloading files with space characters in the filename will suggest ...) closed by Nicklas Nordborg
fixed: (In [4893]) Fixes #1295: Downloading files with space characters in …
10:05 AM Ticket #1296 (Disallow quote characters in file names) closed by Nicklas Nordborg
fixed: (In [4892]) Fixes #1296: Disallow quote characters in file names
10:05 AM Changeset [4892] by Nicklas Nordborg
Fixes #1296: Disallow quote characters in file names
9:58 AM Ticket #1295 (Downloading files with space characters in the filename will suggest ...) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Quoting the file name seems to work well with FF3, but has no effect …
9:22 AM Ticket #1296 (Disallow quote characters in file names) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Status changed
9:22 AM Ticket #1296 (Disallow quote characters in file names) created by Nicklas Nordborg
It should probably have been in the list of "forbidden" characters to …
9:18 AM Ticket #1295 (Downloading files with space characters in the filename will suggest ...) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Status, Milestone, Owner, Priority changed
It seems like browsers handle this differently. IE replaces the space …
9:15 AM Ticket #1294 (Limit the vertical size of "Projects", "New messages" and "News and ...) updated by Jari Häkkinen
Replying to nicklas: > IF we go for a flag I think it …
8:39 AM Ticket #1295 (Downloading files with space characters in the filename will suggest ...) updated by Jari Häkkinen
Version changed
8:39 AM Ticket #1295 (Downloading files with space characters in the filename will suggest ...) created by Jari Häkkinen
I am not sure if this is a BASE problem but it is annoying because, in …
8:28 AM Ticket #1294 (Limit the vertical size of "Projects", "New messages" and "News and ...) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
IF we go for a flag I think it should be an option to hide the …
8:12 AM Ticket #1294 (Limit the vertical size of "Projects", "New messages" and "News and ...) updated by Jari Häkkinen
Summary changed
7:45 AM Ticket #1294 (Limit the vertical size of "Projects", "New messages" and "News and ...) updated by Jari Häkkinen
Description changed
7:43 AM Ticket #1294 (Limit the vertical size of "Projects", "New messages" and "News and ...) created by Jari Häkkinen
As a university core facility our staff have many projects and in …

Apr 7, 2009:

9:50 AM Ticket #1290 (Change source files to UTF-8) closed by Nicklas Nordborg
fixed
9:48 AM Changeset [4891] by Nicklas Nordborg
Fixes #1291: Batch importing same labeled extract in more than one …
9:48 AM Ticket #1291 (Batch importing same labeled extract in more than one array on a ...) closed by Nicklas Nordborg
fixed: (In [4891]) Fixes #1291: Batch importing same labeled extract in more …
9:32 AM Ticket #1291 (Batch importing same labeled extract in more than one array on a ...) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Owner, Status changed
9:03 AM Changeset [4890] by Nicklas Nordborg
Fixes #1292: Use colours when reporting job status in a pop-up
9:03 AM Ticket #1292 (Use colours when reporting job status in a pop-up) closed by Nicklas Nordborg
fixed: (In [4890]) Fixes #1292: Use colours when reporting job status in a pop-up
8:52 AM Ticket #1292 (Use colours when reporting job status in a pop-up) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Status, Owner changed
8:40 AM Ticket #1291 (Batch importing same labeled extract in more than one array on a ...) updated by Jari Häkkinen
Replying to nicklas: > I'll see if we can report this as …

Apr 6, 2009:

7:33 PM Ticket #1291 (Batch importing same labeled extract in more than one array on a ...) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Milestone, Priority changed
A given labeled extract can only be assigned to one place on a …
7:26 PM Ticket #1292 (Use colours when reporting job status in a pop-up) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
[…] is a starting point. Check that it looks ok.
7:25 PM Ticket #1292 (Use colours when reporting job status in a pop-up) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Priority, Milestone changed
4:51 PM Ticket #1293 (Changing name of the 'File' entry in the top toolbar to 'BASE') created by Jari Häkkinen
The content of the 'File' menu entry does not look like a standard …
4:47 PM Ticket #1292 (Use colours when reporting job status in a pop-up) created by Jari Häkkinen
Sometimes the error message in the job pop-up can be hard to spot. Can …
4:45 PM Ticket #1291 (Batch importing same labeled extract in more than one array on a ...) created by Jari Häkkinen
I noticed that trying to batch import a multi-array hybridization with …
2:52 PM Changeset [4889] by Nicklas Nordborg
References #1290: Change source files to UTF-8 Changed 'Hakkinen' to …
2:52 PM Ticket #1290 (Change source files to UTF-8) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
(In [4889]) References #1290: Change source files to UTF-8 Changed …
2:15 PM Changeset [4888] by Nicklas Nordborg
References #1290: Change source files to UTF-8 All *.java, *.jsp and …
2:15 PM Ticket #1290 (Change source files to UTF-8) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
(In [4888]) References #1290: Change source files to UTF-8 All …
12:40 PM Ticket #1290 (Change source files to UTF-8) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Owner, Status, Description changed
12:38 PM Ticket #1290 (Change source files to UTF-8) created by Nicklas Nordborg
I think it is time to convert all our source code files to use UTF-8 …
9:58 AM Changeset [4887] by Nicklas Nordborg
Fixes #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars All toolbars should …
9:58 AM Ticket #1271 (Add extension points to all toolbars) closed by Nicklas Nordborg
fixed: (In [4887]) Fixes #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars All …

Apr 3, 2009:

3:02 PM Changeset [4886] by Nicklas Nordborg
References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars Added code for …
3:02 PM Ticket #1271 (Add extension points to all toolbars) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
(In [4886]) References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars …
1:50 PM Ticket #1289 (Biomaterial classes should implement the Registered interface) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
(In [4885]) References #1289: Biomaterial classes should implement the …
1:50 PM Changeset [4885] by Nicklas Nordborg
References #1289: Biomaterial classes should implement the Registered …
1:49 PM Changeset [4884] by Nicklas Nordborg
References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars Added code for …
1:49 PM Ticket #1271 (Add extension points to all toolbars) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
(In [4884]) References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars …
1:01 PM Changeset [4883] by Martin Svensson
References #1281 Updates a missed title
1:01 PM Ticket #1281 (Change display-format of Biowell coordinates) updated by Martin Svensson
(In [4883]) References #1281 Updates a missed title
12:53 PM Changeset [4882] by Nicklas Nordborg
References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars Added code for …
12:53 PM Ticket #1271 (Add extension points to all toolbars) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
(In [4882]) References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars …
12:40 PM Changeset [4881] by Nicklas Nordborg
References #1289: Biomaterial classes should implement the Registered …
12:40 PM Ticket #1289 (Biomaterial classes should implement the Registered interface) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
(In [4881]) References #1289: Biomaterial classes should implement the …
11:39 AM Changeset [4880] by Nicklas Nordborg
Fixes #1289: Biomaterial classes should implement the Registered interface
11:39 AM Ticket #1289 (Biomaterial classes should implement the Registered interface) closed by Nicklas Nordborg
fixed: (In [4880]) Fixes #1289: Biomaterial classes should implement the …
11:26 AM Changeset [4879] by Nicklas Nordborg
References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars Added code for …
11:26 AM Ticket #1271 (Add extension points to all toolbars) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
(In [4879]) References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars …
11:24 AM Ticket #1289 (Biomaterial classes should implement the Registered interface) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Owner, Status changed
11:24 AM Ticket #1289 (Biomaterial classes should implement the Registered interface) created by Nicklas Nordborg
The Registered interface was introduced by #1166. But it was only …
10:36 AM Ticket #1120 (The dynamic part of BASE should keep track whether intensity data is ...) updated by Jari Häkkinen
Description, Summary changed
More arguments for storing information in BASE about how data is …
9:05 AM Changeset [4878] by Nicklas Nordborg
References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars Added …
9:05 AM Ticket #1271 (Add extension points to all toolbars) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
(In [4878]) References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars …
8:39 AM Ticket #1128 (Export of child items) updated by Martin Svensson
Owner, Status changed
8:32 AM Ticket #1266 (Bioplate coordinates are numbers but it would be better to have ...) closed by Martin Svensson
fixed: See related tickets: #1281, #1282
8:13 AM Ticket #1288 (Tables doesn't indicate if there is a filter on a property that ...) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
(In [4877]) References #1288: Tables doesn't indicate if there is a …
8:13 AM Changeset [4877] by Nicklas Nordborg
References #1288: Tables doesn't indicate if there is a filter on a …
8:10 AM Changeset [4876] by Nicklas Nordborg
Fixes #1288: Tables doesn't indicate if there is a filter on a …
8:10 AM Ticket #1288 (Tables doesn't indicate if there is a filter on a property that ...) closed by Nicklas Nordborg
fixed: (In [4876]) Fixes #1288: Tables doesn't indicate if there is a filter …
8:08 AM Ticket #1288 (Tables doesn't indicate if there is a filter on a property that ...) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Status, Owner changed
8:08 AM Ticket #1288 (Tables doesn't indicate if there is a filter on a property that ...) created by Nicklas Nordborg
If you filter a table manually there is a small "filter" icon …

Apr 2, 2009:

1:59 PM Changeset [4875] by Nicklas Nordborg
Fixes #1287: Make it possible to update an extension to another …
1:59 PM Ticket #1287 (Make it possible to update an extension to another extension point) closed by Nicklas Nordborg
fixed: (In [4875]) Fixes #1287: Make it possible to update an extension to …
1:56 PM Ticket #1287 (Make it possible to update an extension to another extension point) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Owner, Status changed
1:56 PM Ticket #1287 (Make it possible to update an extension to another extension point) created by Nicklas Nordborg
There is currently a problem if an update is made to a registered …
12:40 PM Ticket #1286 (Add support of id-base attribute to extension xml files) closed by Nicklas Nordborg
fixed: (In [4874]) Fixes #1286: Add support of id-base attribute to extension …
12:40 PM Changeset [4874] by Nicklas Nordborg
Fixes #1286: Add support of id-base attribute to extension xml files
10:58 AM Changeset [4873] by Martin Svensson
Fixes #1274 Disable/hide "Validate" and "Extract metadata" options on …
10:58 AM Ticket #1274 (Disable/hide "Validate" and "Extract metadata" options on the "Data ...) closed by Martin Svensson
fixed: (In [4873]) Fixes #1274 Disable/hide "Validate" and "Extract metadata" …
9:26 AM Ticket #1286 (Add support of id-base attribute to extension xml files) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Status, Owner changed
9:26 AM Ticket #1286 (Add support of id-base attribute to extension xml files) created by Nicklas Nordborg
It would be practical to be able to define a top-level 'id-base' …
9:22 AM Ticket #1271 (Add extension points to all toolbars) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
(In [4872]) References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars …
9:22 AM Changeset [4872] by Nicklas Nordborg
References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars Added …

Apr 1, 2009:

2:58 PM Changeset [4871] by Nicklas Nordborg
References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars Added …
2:58 PM Ticket #1271 (Add extension points to all toolbars) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
(In [4871]) References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars …
1:39 PM Ticket #1271 (Add extension points to all toolbars) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
(In [4870]) References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars …
1:38 PM Changeset [4870] by Nicklas Nordborg
References #1271: Add extension points to all toolbars Infrastructure …
9:16 AM DownloadPage edited by Jari Häkkinen
No need to leave non-linked package names (diff)
9:02 AM Ticket #1274 (Disable/hide "Validate" and "Extract metadata" options on the "Data ...) updated by Martin Svensson
Status, Owner changed
8:27 AM DownloadPage edited by Martin Svensson
Updated the download table; removed older versions(2.4.6 or older) and … (diff)

Mar 31, 2009:

2:21 PM Changeset [4869] by Martin Svensson
Fixes #1281 Change display-format of Biowell coordinates.
2:21 PM Ticket #1281 (Change display-format of Biowell coordinates) closed by Martin Svensson
fixed: (In [4869]) Fixes #1281 Change display-format of Biowell coordinates.
1:54 PM Ticket #1270 (Online editing of text files) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
(In [4868]) References #1270: Online editing of text files Forgot to …
1:54 PM Changeset [4868] by Nicklas Nordborg
References #1270: Online editing of text files Forgot to add the icon.
1:50 PM Ticket #1271 (Add extension points to all toolbars) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
Status, Owner changed
1:23 PM Changeset [4867] by Nicklas Nordborg
Fixes #1270: Online editing of text files
1:23 PM Ticket #1270 (Online editing of text files) closed by Nicklas Nordborg
fixed: (In [4867]) Fixes #1270: Online editing of text files
1:13 PM Ticket #1285 (MeV TDMS file creation problem) closed by Jari Häkkinen
invalid: Moved to http://baseplugins.thep.lu.se/ticket/194
12:59 PM Ticket #1285 (MeV TDMS file creation problem) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
This ticket should be moved to MeV Launcher on the BASE plug-ins site. …
12:30 PM tdms_creation_error.png attached to Ticket #1285 by Jari Häkkinen
12:30 PM Ticket #1285 (MeV TDMS file creation problem) created by Jari Häkkinen
I think this issue belongs to BASE core/web. I am using the brilliant …
9:36 AM Ticket #1281 (Change display-format of Biowell coordinates) updated by Martin Svensson
Status changed
9:36 AM Changeset [4866] by Martin Svensson
Fixes #1282 Change display-format of well coordinates.
9:36 AM Ticket #1282 (Change display-format of well coordinates) closed by Martin Svensson
fixed: (In [4866]) Fixes #1282 Change display-format of well coordinates.
9:31 AM Ticket #1284 (Viev and download icons for file should show file size) closed by Nicklas Nordborg
fixed: (In [4865]) Fixes #1284: Viev and download icons for file should show …
9:31 AM Changeset [4865] by Nicklas Nordborg
Fixes #1284: Viev and download icons for file should show file size

Mar 30, 2009:

7:38 PM Ticket #1284 (Viev and download icons for file should show file size) created by Nicklas Nordborg
There are a lot of places in the BASE web interface where …
6:06 PM Ticket #1283 (Table exporter refuses to start if download immediately is disabled) updated by Jari Häkkinen
Description changed
5:40 PM Ticket #1283 (Table exporter refuses to start if download immediately is disabled) updated by Jari Häkkinen
I suppose that the "Allow immediate execution" must exist for the …
4:48 PM Ticket #1283 (Table exporter refuses to start if download immediately is disabled) closed by Nicklas Nordborg
invalid: The table exporter must always be executed immediately, since it …
3:46 PM Ticket #1283 (Table exporter refuses to start if download immediately is disabled) created by Jari Häkkinen
... even if a target file name is selected. The plug-in displays …
9:29 AM Milestone BASE 2.11 completed
This milestone will target performance issues.
9:18 AM Changeset [4864] by Nicklas Nordborg
Merged pre-2.11 changes to the trunk.
9:07 AM DownloadPage edited by Nicklas Nordborg
Releasing BASE 2.11 (diff)
9:03 AM Changeset [4863] by Nicklas Nordborg
Changes for future release 2.11.1
8:49 AM Changeset [4862] by Nicklas Nordborg
Tagging version 2.11
8:48 AM Changeset [4861] by Nicklas Nordborg
Preparing release 2.11
8:30 AM ReleaseProcedure edited by Nicklas Nordborg
Removed steps including copyright updates, since we are never doing … (diff)
8:25 AM Ticket #1280 (Versioned annotations of reporters) updated by Nicklas Nordborg
I don't think this ticket requires a BASE 3 no matter what technical …
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